Dateline: June 10 1998 1:20 AM
2323 Stratford, Cincinnati, Ohio
A storm raged outside, preventing us from working on the hypertext, due to our fears that the lightning would cause the computer to crash and ruin the whole damn thing. Wed put in, what, about 12 hours at this point and didnt want to risk it. The interview/conversation/symposium was originally intended for broadcast on WEFT Radio/Champaign, but was never broadcast, due to multiple breaches of FCC regulations.
S: I think maybe we should take a little time to explain what we have in mind with the Unknown Anthology.
W: I think it would be good for the radio listeners to hear some people brainstorming about their hypertext.
W: Because theyll never hear that on radio, anywhere else.
S: Its certainly a new genre.
D: But we gotta watch our language. This is not recording right now, is it?
W: Also, really direct references to ourselves, I think we should just agree to rule outand just talk about the project.
D: Alright, well, I have a word about the project. I dont like the fact that were calling it the Unknown Anthology. I think that the book should just be The Unknownperiod
S: The Unknown.
D: I mean, it should be broad. And if theres a subtitle, you can say an anthology of blah blah blah.
S: I only say the Unknown Anthology because its an anthology of the Unknown.
W: Oh that project. I thought we were talking about the other project.
D: Well, what other project are we talking about?
W: Well theres the hypertext, then theres the Unknown anthology, which is the book that we wrote, and the only reason we wrote that is so that we could write the book that we havent written yet, the Unknowneh thats titled
D: Criticism of the Unknown.
S: Or is it A Critical Response to the Unknown?
D: [With Indignation] No.
S: I mean because thats what it would be; a critical response.
D: Yes, I realize that, but criticism has more meanings than critical response. Criticism can meanpointing your finger at the Unknown and going BAD UNKNOWN, BAD!
S: [Laughing] I know, but we dont wanna do thatI mean
D: Yes we do! We want to be multivaried and silly because partially this is a silly project
S: Well, yeah, in origin, but
D: In origin
W: Which project?
S: The Unknown.
W: Okay, yeah, that ones silly.
D: The Criticism of the Unknown.
W: No, that ones serious
D: I mean if you say A Critical Response to the Unknown, already youre setting yourself up for academic bullshit. A Critical Response to the Unknown, it sounds like
S: Can you say bullshit on the radio?
W: You cant say bullshit on the radio. And we dont even want itso why say it?
S: Yeah. Dont say bullshit.
W: Its an eight letter word. Those areevil.
S: Oh, theyre legal?
W: No, I didnt, Im just
D: No, its a legal hassle. You cant
S: You cant say bu...
D: The FCC is
S: So why dont we back up little, cause thats gonna get edited out. So why dont we say, This is B.S.
W: Sure, we can do that.
S: Because B.S. is, uhyou can say B.S. on the radio.
W: What are we talking about?
S: We were talking about The Unknown.
W: Oh, okay.
S: The project, uh, this was your idea to begin withwasnt it, Dirk?
D: No. Was I?well . . .
S: Well, I guess it was sort of our idea, collectively.
D: We were talking about howwell we were talking about Williams work.
S: Oh yeah, and how there should be criticism.
W: And at some point we said, I think to each otherI dont remember who prompted firstthat we could write criticism about that workthat it needed
S: And that it was like looking for scholars, almost. I mean, it had that kind of brilliance.
D: Right, exactly. It was work thatpart of his attention, his focus on attracting the type of audience necessary to make it undergocritical examination.
S: I think that theres a need for that. Even if it wasnt, ah, actually published.
W: Cause its easier to write criticism about criticism than it is about literature, so if you have someone to ah, you know, start the criticism, then its easier to accept the literature into the group of literature that people have heard of.
S: Yeah. Its also fun to write essays about your friendsstuff.
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